Remember, revising is the third stage of our writing process. In terms of the total time spent on a writing project, it should make up 50%-60% of the efforts.
As a part of our revision process for this paper, we participated in a peer review. We said that a peer review can be beneficial in many ways. Here is your chance to reflect on how our peer review can help or has helped you revise your draft.
Please respond to the following questions in your comment:
- How have you revised in the past? Did you spend 50% of your time on this process?
- Name and explain two strengths that the peer review revealed about your paper.
- Name and explain two things that the peer review exposed about your paper that needed improvement.
- Other than peer review, what revision technique(s) will you use for this paper or in the future?
Typically when I revise a paper I'll start with the spell check just to weed out the dumb shit. Upon doing that, I'll read the paper repeatedly to try to find grammatical errors and snags in the flow. I'll change things until I see fit, or am cross eyed, ... or both, then I'll find somebody else to read it. I would have to say that I probably do in fact spend 50% of my time in the revision processes.
ReplyDeleteWell, seeing as we haven't done the rough draft of the peer review yet, it's going to be a little difficult to asses it's strengths. Hypothetically though, it is certainly a strong method for revising. It holds true in most technical areas of life. If I build a car or a bike, many times a fellow builder or machinist may catch something I missed. You can look at your own flaw several times over and not see it.
My hypothetical peer group shall expose that my paper is in fact not written.
I'll use my traditional revision techniques that I previously mentioned. I'll spell check it, read it, have others read it, and repeat this process until I feel I have a quality paper.
In the past for revising any pieces that i have written, I usually go over it a couple times and see if i spelled anything wrong or put something where it wasn't suppose to be. I have a habit of excessivly using puntuations in my sentences, making them run-ons. So I'll usually fix everything I find wrong with my paper and that's where another reader comes in to see if I caught everything that was wrong with the paper. That's where a peer would come in handy because some people will tell you it's good but with peer review they know they're going over it to find the misprints and what not. So they'll have no problem telling you there is a 100 things wrong with the piece. Other than the peer review, there are many more ways to proofread or revise your writings. Such as spell checks, which are a big help in longer pieces. You could always use the good old way and just read your paper multiple times until you think it's perfect, which there's usually that one thing you didnt catch so you could have someone else read it over for you. There are many different techniques that are possible for revising a paper.
ReplyDeleteTo me, revising has always been pretty much going through and doing a spell check, looking for run-on sentences, or correcting punctuation. In short, tying up any loose ends. After last weeks class, I can see that it is more than that. It is the most important step in writing a paper. It is also the longest process.
ReplyDeleteA peer review can be so helpful while you go through your paper looking for flaws because in my paper, I am seeing things from my point of view, and sometimes it is hard to tell if you are being close-minded in my opinion, or if the paper even makes any sense at all! They are from the outside looking in, so they will be able to pinpoint where your mistakes are. Many times have I read through a paper multiple times, and always miss the same mistakes each time. Different things stand out to different people, which is another important reason to have more than one person look your work over.
I rarely used the revising process. Usually, I would just check for spelling errors, punctuation, and running sentences. I would write about what I needed to, keep to the format my teachers wanted, and I would do just fine. Revision was a very brief process for me.
ReplyDeleteI haven't had a peer read my paper because I haven't finished the first copy yet, but there are strengths to having a peer read your paper. Having someone else reading your paper will help show that the message of your paper is getting out. If the peer understands what you are trying to say, then the audience should too. Also, peers can point out any little errors you may have missed.
Perhaps some other ways to revise would be going over your sources again. Also, making sure you have answered the reasearch question to its fullest. Those are some other ways to revise.
My revision in the past has been sending my paper to a good friend of mine that is a teacher. She will look it over and tell me areas that may need work or removed. This process did take alot of time because of the sending back and forth multiple drafts.
ReplyDeleteWell as of the time of this posting I cannot say much about the classroom peer review. But my review of of others papers in the past has helped me develop my writing style a bit more. As you read the works of others you retain alittle of thier style and mend it into your own. Also by reading others papers you can see thier mistakes that you may also make. Therefore when you reread your paper you may pick up on those and correct them.
What I can say as far as my out of class peer review by my teacher friend is that I put too much effort in my first draft. She tells me I have the habit of wanting to my paper perfect the first time around.
Other then peer review I may use the CCC OWL. Also I may use self review and read the paper several times over the next week. Reading it a second or third time may make mistakes pop out at you.
I would like to say that I spend 50% of my time revising my paper, but this just isn't true. I am generally lazy when it comes to double checking and stuff. I like to just get the paper over with and forget about it.
ReplyDeleteA peer review could strengthen my paper in many ways, one being the peer can look at the paper in the "reader's" point of view. This will help develop a strong paper that is readable to other people, not just by me. A second way a peer review would strengthen my paper is that it would help with grammatical and spelling errors.
The peer review basically exposed both the things that I talked about above.
Other revision tools that I will use in the future will be, probably tools off of the internet or the CCC website. These tools will help me a lot when it comes to revision.
For me, in the past revising was only spell check and rereading the paper 20 min before i handed it in. No way did i ever spend more than 10 percent of my time revising
ReplyDeleteOne way to improve a paper is by peer review this could halp a paper in a couple of different ways. First just having another person read you paper will give you another prespective on your peice, someone who doesnt have any time invested in the paper will be able to see flaws in the flow and organization quick. Peer review also give you the advantage of asking someone to only check the paper for one of the four bases of reveiw instead of trying to review the whole thing at once.
In the future i plan to use a post draft outline to make sure every paragraph make sence to my r.q. and I will always read my essay outloud to myself to make sure what i read is what i want to be saying in the paper.
When i used to revise my paper i used to just use spell check and re-read my paper and take out things that i found sounded dumb or that my paper lacked or put in thing that i thoguht that my paper needed. Peer revise I found showed what my paper sounded like from diffrent prospectives. It also showed what they think my paper could use witch was the best help. Other toold i may use will probably be internet or some type of reading source.
ReplyDeleteWhen it came time to revise my paper it took me a good amount of time im not going to lie. Revision is one of the most important part of your writing process, it makes you re-read what you put down. Often when doing that I think of a better way to say something or more details to add to juice up my paper. Using peer revision it helped my giving me another's perspective on my paper and what they thought was good and what was.
ReplyDeletePrior to revision like this, I would have one person read my paper for all the mistakes. After using this process though it is easy to see that this method is much more efficient and productive. Also before this method I did not put 50% of my paper into the revision stage, I took a short amount of time to just find problems here and there then correct the mistakes right there and get it done with.
ReplyDeleteThe strengths in my paper that I was able to see from peer review is that I have alot of good and relevant quotes from the story and that I also have good strong ideas.
The things that I need to improve in my paper that I can now fix because they were brought up with peer review were that although the paper had good ideas there needed to be more flow and better transition between the ideas. Also another thing that I need to improve is my conclusion and wrapping up the whole paper together.
For more revision on this paper and future papers I will have other people look at it besides my peers, also use the "put away...another day" method to find my own mistakes and correct them.
I have revised in the past, but never in my writing history have I spent at least fifty to sixty percent of my time revising. It has only come to knowledge after practicing these skills and seeing them in action that revision is the single most important part of any good paper. You can never write the best paper on the first try, so you must try and yet try again. My revisions in the past were always short and just looking for common errors, I never looked too deeply into the subject.
ReplyDeleteWell besides peer review I will read the question I have, and then read my paper, and think does it answer my question clearly? Does this make a point clearly? I will try and act like I know nothing of the subject to try and get an "outside of the box" type of feel to reading and revising my paper.
In the past I havent taken much time to revise papers that I have written. Most of my time has been focused on drafting when it should have been focused on revising. I learned this week that drafting should only take up 10% of the time spent writing a paper.
ReplyDeleteI have a good thesis within my paper and have good structure. The peer review exposed to me that I need to work on some of my topic sentences and cutting out some citation from the work.
I will use "put away...another day." and the read aloud method to revise my paper. I found these two methods the most effective.
I didn't really revise in the past because it wasn't something that my teachers ever really emphasized. I would take a quick look over my paper after typing it but that was about it. Peer review helps get input on my paper from other people. I get tips on the weaknesses of my paper. Peer review showed me that i need to transition better between thoughts and to better organize my intoduction and conclusion. I will probably just read it over and over until it sounds good, and then have someone read through it in case i missed something.
ReplyDeleteIn the past, I usually spent around 25 to 40% on revising the paper. Usually, it was correcting spelling errors and moving sentences about the paper. Sometimes, a few sentences were remade into a new paragraph. Other times, two paragraphs were remade into one.
ReplyDeleteDuring the peer review, I found out a few things about my paper. One strength was it had pretty adequate spelling. I wish a could name another strength about my paper, But only one was given. As for things that needed improvement in my paper, about three paragraphs needed to be split and have certain sentences expanded on. Another thing was that it seemed to stretch out near the end and say nothing.
Peer review was pretty fun and informative. I hope to do it again in the future. I can’t recall any other revision techniques at the moment, but I hope to use them when the situation called for them.
Honestly, In the past I haven’t revised my papers very much ,and maybe that’s why they weren’t always there best. To me, revising is when I fixed my grammar mistakes and run -ons. But now revising is completely different to me. Yeah, I probably did spend 50 percent on the process of revision. When it should be such a bigger portion of revising an essay. The two strengths they found in my paper would be that I have a good thesis and that I have good flow and structure within my paper. But two things that I need to improve quit I bit, would be I need to put more transitions in my paper and need to stop repeating sentences. I don’t repeat the sentence over, but I do put it into different words I just don’t realize it. I think I will defiantly use the “put away. ..Another day” , the reason being would be I think I get so frustrated that I just write down basically crap. But if I use this technique I wont be as frustrated and stressed. I believe that technique will help me out for sure in the future paper.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was in highschool we would revise on every paper that we wrote. We very rarely spent 50% of the time on that part of the process. It would useally be a one or two day thing in class.
ReplyDeleteThe main ideas about my paper was my biggest strength and the other would have to be my sentence and paragraph structure.
When I was doing the peer review the main things that were pointed out to me that I didnt do the right way were grammer and spelling errors mostly
When I wrap this paper up and papers to come I will use the spell check as well as read line by line.
When revising I typically read through every paragraph after writing it and then read my entire work as a whole to make sure that everything is in order and is logical. A lot of times my brother, sister, and I will help eachother with essays by reading them over and pointing out strong and weak points in the essay. I believe I spend around 50 percent of my time on revision.
ReplyDeleteTwo strengths I gained during the peer review was learning that my peers thought I was a good pre-writer, and wrote a good introduction.
Two things the peer revealed about my pre-writing is that I need to work on grammar as well as my conclusions.
In the future I will continue to proof read my essays over and over again as I always have but I would like to try the "put away...another day" method in the future.
I try to revise my paper as I write it to eliminate spending so much time in the end proof-reading and re-writing. I ususally have my mom read over it when its all done just to make sure that everything makes sense and that everything flows nicely.
ReplyDeleteIn class, I learned that I used good language, grammar, and punctuation, but I often made things a bit too wordy.
The biggest weakness that I had though was that I didnt have clear cut topic sentences for all of my paragraphs. After I fixed that, I had a pretty good paper in my hands.
In the future, I will try to save revising until the end, just because it will probably save me some unnecessary grief.